Dr. Schaffner: Welcome, everyone, to the Spectrum of Health podcast and today my guest is Luke Storey. Today we are going to be talking about fine-tuning your body electric.  I really admire Luke’s work, and I as well as my  patients have been listening to his podcast for years.  It was really fun to     interview Luke on this topic, we talk about bridging the gap between          consciousness and the quantum field, tools and therapies to uplevel your   coherence in your field, and protecting yourself from EMFs while you sleep. I hope you enjoy my conversation today with Luke Storey. 

Welcome Luke, it’s an honor to have you on the podcast today.

Luke Storey: Thank you. It’s great to be here.

Dr. Schaffner: Well, I feel like I know you. I’ve been listening to your podcast for a couple of years now, and I feel that you’re a bridge from kind of the world that we do in alternative medicine and the work that we do with chronic illness and bringing these concepts to more of a mainstream, if you will, community. So, I’m just excited to explore these concepts with you. And let’s just start with this idea of the body electric. Why I called the summit, The Body Electric, is because I feel like this gives us a framework and an understanding of our electromagnetic nature and that we’re more than just biochemistry, but we have this whole aspect that our body responds and communicates with principles of physics.

And so, how did you get started in exploring concepts of our body electric?

Luke: I think when I really got serious about my spiritual path, which would

have been in 1997, when I was 26 years old, I was faced with an early and untimely demise due to multiple addictions and unresolved trauma and general neurosis living the rock and roll nightmare in Hollywood, California.

And so, I was very desperate to get tuned in spiritually. And I sensed early on that having a connection with a higher power was going to be the way out.

However, I was so toxic physically that I quickly learned that I needed to be able to tune my body and my nervous system and purify in order to be able to truly pursue the spirituality that I knew was critical to not only my survival but just to having a better quality of life.

And so, all the issues that I had with addiction and mental illness were only solvable by getting deeply into alternative healing.

And so, over the years, what has emerged for me and now I guess many people call what I do biohacking. Back in the day, there wasn’t really a name for it. You were just a health nut or maybe anti-aging. It was kind of the anti-aging scene.

Now I think it’s more clear to me than ever that the purpose of taking care of the body is to make sure that you have a reliable vessel that has the vitality in order to fulfill your dharmic path or mission here.

So the body, as I see it and I’m becoming more intimately related to my own body as I kind of mature in understanding and awareness, it really is kind of a tuning fork. It’s a communication tool that tells us where we are in the world physically and gives us sort of an internal GPS on where we might go in order to serve the highest good. And so, being someone who was either born with or developed a really sensitive body, I’m very much in communication with my body and what it wants to do when it wants to do it, where it wants to be, where it doesn’t want to be.

And so, I look at it as kind of this interface between my consciousness soul, who I really am, and the quantum field. And there’s no other way to really explain it. To me, it’s a radio transmitter-receiver, human electrical protoplasmic meatsuit. And it’s a vehicle.

And just like when we get in the vehicle that we drive– I’ve got my rental car outside of the house here, and I get in that car, and I have to pay attention to all of the cues that that car is giving me in order to get where I want to go safely and to accomplish whatever the mission it happens to be, getting groceries, taking a trip to here in Austin, where I’ll probably be doing a lot of creek swimming. I love freezing creeks. And so, if I want to get from point A to point B effectively, I have to pay attention and really fine-tune that car and definitely monitor its communication with me.

And I look at the body much in the same way. I mean, maybe not in such a reductionist, cold, calculated way. It’s a bit more of a loving relationship that I have with my body. But I really think that it has an ability to communicate with us. And I was just talking to my fiancé this morning, or she was talking to me rather. I recently had a spell of dizziness or vertigo or something like that. We were out in Sedona for a while. And to me, I’m just like, God, how do I fix this? This is so annoying. What’s wrong? I go to every healer in town. And I just work on it. I work on it. I work on it.

Finally, it went away, and it’s been weeks now. So I’m like, I don’t need to think about that anymore. And I was about to meditate, and Alison pulled a couple of cards for me. She’s a shaman and so she has practices that she follows daily, and pulling cards is one of them.

And so, she pulled three cards for me and suggested that I tap into what my body was trying to tell me with that vertigo. And even after all these years, it still didn’t occur to me. I’m just like body, damn it, stop doing this. This is annoying. I have things to do, but I really did. I tapped in this morning to the body and its messages, and one word immediately came to mind, and that was trust.

And I think so many of us during this uncertain time when we watch our reality really sort of crumble around us, or at least our perception of what we thought reality was, it’s really important for me right now to trust divinity and to trust the field of consciousness, to trust my body, to trust that I’m being guided and protected and to really just tap in and listen to that.

And being in tune with the body is a huge part of that. And so, I think in relation to your summit, that’s kind of where I land with it right now, and I’ll close in saying that I think a lot of us that are into the alternative medicine, functional medicine, anti-aging, biohacking, myself definitely included, have a tendency to think that we’re going to arrive at the destination of feeling fulfilled and having a life of meaning and ease and grace if we can just get physically healthy enough.

And so, for me, there’s always this razor’s edge of doing the spiritual work, the personal development work, the psychological work. And I did Kundalini yoga almost daily, going on eight years. I haven’t done it in a while. I go through phases. It was an eight-year phase, perhaps, but I quickly learned in that practice that the body is really a crucial role when it comes to elevating your consciousness.

Because as you tap into more cosmic energy, it’s more demanding on the body. And I think this is why so many saints and sages in our recorded history have sometimes met an early demise because it really does take a lot of power to be able to elevate that level of consciousness and to really embody spiritual practices, plant medicines, whatever one’s chosen path is. It’s like a fine line between really focusing on that but also making sure the body is tuned up and ready for that mission. And I’m always kind of oscillating between those two, trying to find a cente point where I’m really in the awareness that the spiritual element of my life is the most important part of it, although you have to have a certain amount of energy and vitality to pursue a spiritual life, because it does take a lot of energy when you’re really sensitive and really tapped in.

Dr. Schaffner: I love this. And this resonates a lot with my understandings.

And again, I’m with you. It’s always evolving, as we learn within our own experience, and I say kind of from my patients educating me every day about this experience.

And you said a few things that I just want to land on. The idea that our body is this tuning fork. It’s this vessel. And it’s also a barometer for us to continue to explore when we do have imbalances. What are the things beyond?

Of course, they’re physical things to support us and to correct, but what is the meaning behind that? And I think if we enter into this more deeply connected way of navigating our body, as you said, it becomes more of this trust and this communication process rather than this fear control model that obviously we’re being bombarded with.

And hopefully, a lot of us are finding ways to navigate through that. And we have Dr. Sue Morter on the Body Electric Summit 2.0 just to share with people. And she actually holds up, Luke, a little diagram of a biofield kind of in resonance and coherence and one that has kind of blocks and how we–you mentioned how like we’re connected to the field. So one way that we can walk through life is to continue to cultivate and work on our own coherent fields so we can bring the people and the circumstances and the scenarios that are going to be a match that can help us on our soul’s evolution.

I mean, that’s kind of my understanding as we sit today, and it sounds like you have a similar process. And so, many people might be thinking, okay, these are new ideas, and okay, where do I start?

So you had a path from age 26 to where you are in this really amazing space now. And so, what are some kind of therapies and tools and strategies that have stood out to you personally that helped you to fine-tune your vessel?

Luke: Well, I think for me, it’s been all the exploration that I’ve done in terms of the physical practices and physical health that have been fundamentally rooted in common sense.

And what I mean by that is if I look at the pathology in the human condition and look just a few hundred years back, if you want to go a few thousand years back, maybe even better, but it seems like human beings were doing pretty well physically throughout the ages until the industrial revolution.

Well, maybe prior to that, the agricultural revolution then into the industrial revolution. And then now we’re into this sort of technocracy evolution perhaps. But with every wave of technology and advancement, it’s like humankind has collectively shot ourselves in the foot.

When we first got away from our natural lifeway in terms of eating wild foods and went into hybridized domesticated foods and moved closer together in townships, villages, eventually cities, that was one step in the wrong direction.

And then, of course, with the advent of all of the chemicals and the military- industrial complex and nuclear testing and all of that, then you have the    electrification. Is that the word? Electrification of the world. In America, we have 60 Hertz running through everything.

And then, of course, wireless communications, World War II radar, cellular communications, FM radio, television. We’ve been kind of polluted every level from the underground waterways and aquifers to the air. Now we are into the geoengineering over the past couple of decades. So there’s God knows what being sprayed in our skies. So it seems to me that if I want to get to the root of what my trouble might be physically, I’ve got to look at what things were like before all of those events transpired.And it’s probably not possible to live a life of convenience and productivity in today’s world and try to devolve yourself back into a paleolithic pre-agriculture human being unless you’re really committed, and you want to go live in the middle of nowhere in the woods and live off the land.

I’m a bit too domesticated to probably do that. I don’t think I’m that tough, to be honest. And I don’t know that I would want to be. So for me, with the health practices, it’s always been an acknowledgment and acceptance. Good, okay. This is where we are as a species. This is where I am. I’ve lived my entire life, for the most part, indoors, sitting down under artificial non-native blue light.

And for the past, maybe 25, 30 years in an absolute electric soup of EMF in the environment. And so, there are only so many of those things I can change.

So what are the practices that I can adapt into my life to simulate a pre domesticated existence? And in some cases, using technologies to get fortified by some of the elements of nature that I don’t have access to consistently enough.

So, in there, the first two things are realizing that unless you evolve somewhere near the equator, that you likely experience pretty dramatic changes in temperature. We live now at 68, 70 degrees if we’re lucky in the first world to have indoor climate control, and we just want to be comfortable. Most humans feel comfortable at that, but we’ve not evolved to be comfortable. We’ve evolved to be freezing in the winter, to get in freezing bodies of water to bathe ourselves, and also been exposed to extreme heat during summer months or spending time in hot springs and things like that. So the first thing to me is to tune the nervous system to radical temperature change.

So, this morning I woke up here in Austin. It’s in the low sixties, I think, at night. So it’s not that cold right now. And I went in the unheated pool first thing when I woke up, and it’s probably in the fifties or so. It is pretty chilly, not as cold as I would prefer. I like it, maybe 35 to 40. It is kind of my sweet spot to take a morning plunge, but it was nice. And then I made sure as soon as the clouds parted and the sun came out to get as much of my naked body out in the sun so I could at least start my day in the elements. If this was not a rental, if I was home, I’d have an infrared sauna. I’d have red light therapy.

I would do everything I can to watch the sunrise and watch the sunset, which depending on where one is situated geographically, is less or more possible depending on where the horizon is obviously and your vantage point.

This spot here has a two-story garage that you can climb on, and you can see the sunset and the sunrise on a flat plain horizon, which is amazing. I did not make it up this morning to do so as I needed the rest after flying. But thoseare a couple of things.

It’s just like our relationship with light. We aren’t meant to live behind glass or to live with artificial light. And I think that to me almost trumps your diet is our relationship to light. Our circadian biology is so yoked to our environment.

And speaking of the body as a bio-signal receiver, our skin is covered with

photoreceptors, and we take in information constantly from our environment as to where we are physically in the cosmos. And I think a lot of people like the home I’m in right now, you can probably see in the video, it has a beautiful, natural light.

It has huge big windows on both sides, and people call that natural light. But now we know that half of the UV is blocked when you’re behind glass. So there’s no such thing as natural light indoors unless the window is open.

So being aware of things like that and finding that balance of not being paranoid, like, oh my God, I’m going to get cancer if I’m in this non-native blue light. That’s not the right approach either.

It’s just being aware if I want to be healthy, like the humans of old. I mean, granted, we had sanitation issues, not that it was a walk in the park for ancient humans in the paleolithic era, but they didn’t get cancer from being under blue light all day and having their world be lit at night. So it’s a balance of going like, okay, how can I get close to that but still know that if it’s storming outside, I have a warm house to come into.

That’s really nice. And I appreciate it, but I always kind of remember, this is not supposed to be how it is. So the relationship with temperature, with light is probably the first place I start, and just really interacting with the sun is a huge part of my practice.

I guess I’m part Italian, so I’ve kind of olive skin. I’m very tolerant to sun. I get tons of sun. I’m sure there’s some oxidative stress that happens as a result of that, but that’s where the ice baths come in and supplementation like molecular hydrogen and exclusion zone water from the NanoVi and other really powerful ways to mitigate some of the oxidative stress from being in the natural environment so much.

So, I like to kind of play with that realm and really just undomesticate myself and get outdoors barefoot, grounded in the elements. And even just taking in the natural essential oils in my environment, just walking in the forest, forest bathing, taking in all of the yeast, mold, viruses, what we would call germs in the germ theory world, like taking that in and really actually celebrating that.

Getting my hands dirty in the dirt and not washing them before I eat and really trained to do my best to integrate myself into the natural environment.

And in closing, I think where I am now in realizing this for myself is really just having a strong pull to live somewhere more remote, which is why I’m here in Texas right now. I never ever in my life was like, someday I’ll move to Texas.

No offense against Texas. It just was not on my radar of places to live, but I’m out here in an area outside of Austin called Dripping Springs. And it looks like we’re in Italy or Northern California, or Portugal. I mean, it’s the most beautiful climate. It’s almost this– I don’t know. It has a Mediterranean kind of feel it here. It’s really cool.

But again, just getting out in the rain. I went swimming in the rain this morning and then got pretty naked in the sun. And every time I come to a place like this, I realize, God, I really don’t want to live in a city anymore. It’s just too much. It’s just not healthy.

And I think for younger people, there are more opportunities in the city, and I probably wouldn’t have the money to buy a house out here now if I hadn’t spent 30 years in the city of LA working my ass off, building relationships, building my skill set. And creating the media that I create now was largely possible because of that time in the city.

But I think the key to health is really getting back to nature. It’s as simple as that, and we wouldn’t need any supplements or any of this shit that I do. I inject peptides and NAD. I mean, that’s just my life. If you follow me around for a day, I mean, it’s a crazy science experiment.

But I truly believe had I been born in the wild and never domesticated, I would probably be– I might have to go back three or four generations of the Storey’s or what have you to get there.

I’m sure I have been adulterated just through the domestication of my ancestors, but I’m not that many generations removed from people that lived off the land, at least pre-industrial.

So I think if I can get back to that in a sane way that’s not totally neurotic and controlling, which I have a tendency to be, then a lot of the other props wouldn’t be that necessary.

When you live in a 2, 3, 4, 5G soup of metropolitan Los Angeles with a sensitive tuning fork that I am, it requires a lot of props just to be at base normal level of energy and general wellbeing. And I think that’s a lot less work if someone lives closer to the land and more in alignment with nature.

Dr. Schaffner: Yeah. It’s amazing how resilient the human body is given what we’re living through. And there was a period of time– I’m always amazed at it. There was a period of time where I would go down to LA pretty regularly to see patients. And I felt like my LA patients were some of the sickest because I tend to see the canaries in the coal mine, and then you put them in LA like you were just saying, the extraordinary amount of effort and resources it took to recover their health.

You just think like I’m a naturopath. How’s this supposed to be this hard?And so, it makes sense as we understand this. And yeah, no, I love how you share this. There are these concepts of hormesis, or this putting us through a short period of stress in order for our body to adapt and regulate and grow.

And I think as you’ve said, we’ve gotten really comfortable. We’ve gotten really comfortable. And in that comfort, we’re not using our biology probably as it was wired to do. And so, I know with Wim Hoff’s work, cold therapy, and all this nature cure, water therapy has become more popular.

And so, if people don’t have access to a pool, they can do their bathtub or their shower. And I’m a big fan of light. We are wired to receive light, and I’m really into biophoton medicine as well and how light is such a healing tool.

Our cells are literally wired to receive light as well as sound. You will hear a lot of people talking about sound as well. So lots of great tips. I’m just super curious. I wonder what peptides you are injecting? What you are doing.

But I won’t take that rabbit hole. But that’s a fun area of medicine for us as far as kind of that bridge and getting people more resilient and getting more tools. While we still have access to it, I think it’s a great tool out there.

So, Luke, you mentioned circadian biology, and I think circadian biology is huge. It’s another way to connect us to nature and these rhythms and cycles that we have throughout our day throughout our seasons. And we know that sleep is just really so foundational to our health.

It’s a time where our brain detoxifies, where the body heals, repairs. We also get connected to those other aspects of ourselves and opens us to this other level of consciousness through the dream world. I’m curious. What is your sleep routine? How do you optimize your sleep at this point?

Luke: That’s a great question. And I think something that is just foundational to health. And now I just turned 50 in October, a couple of months back. And so, I mean, the older I get, the more I realize how important sleep is. My fiancé is a few years younger than I am.

Honestly, she’s a bit tougher. She just, I don’t know. She can kind of eat whatever and do whatever. She feels great. She has energy. She doesn’t have any physical problems. I think she just has good genes or something. And she’s much less sensitive about the sleep.

Like she can get woken up a bunch of times and still wakes up feeling refreshed. I am a train wreck if I don’t get really good quality sleep. I mean, I really suffer. My days will not be well-spent if I have a sleep deficit, and the older I get, the more that is the case.

So, this is something that I’ve spent a lot of time and energy working on. I’m always fine-tuning. And I would say in terms of my general health practices, the sleep would be the number one thing. And so, starting out, I’ve become really habituated to not having any blue light in my life at night.

So when I’m at home in Los Angeles, I’ve got the whole place rigged with incandescent bulbs, and they probably, technically speaking for any geeks out there, they probably have a little bit of green light.

It’s not like as gangster as having all red light in your house at night, but there’s definitely no like LEDs or fluorescent lights or even light in the blue spectrum of incandescent bulb.

So it’s just all amber lighting in the house at night. And to the point that I actually travel with a box of incandescent bulbs, and I change the light bulbs wherever we go.

Dr. Schaffner: Awesome.

Luke: In the house I’m in now, I flipped on all the lights last night, and all of the fixtures here have those nice antique incandescent bulbs, but there’s overhead lights that are all just heinous blue flickering LED lights. So, I’m mindful about which switches I hit, but I swear to me like that’s the most important thing.

And of course, I have my iPhone set where there’s three clicks, and you can turn the whole screen red when I need to look at that. On the computer that I’m using to speak to you right now, there’s a program called– How was I going to say it? ISIS, no, that’s a terrorist organization. The app is called Iris. I think it’s iris.io. You can find it. And it has much more hardcore settings than like flux or even some of the native programs like Apple products have now.

So, at night, if I’m going to be on the computer or my phone, I turn the screen like red, where it’s barely usable. It’s so red, which is great because I don’t want to be on the damn devices at night anyway. It’s just sometimes I can’t resist, or there’s something I have to check on.

So the thing was, sleep for me, the number one thing has been really being strict about the lighting until it just becomes a habit. And then you don’t have to be strict.

I know when it gets dark outside that it’s also dark inside, meaning that there’s no more blue light because there’s no more blue light in the sky. If there’s no UV outside, there’s going to be no fake UV inside. And another great thing about that is you knock out two birds with one stone.

If you go all incandescent, then there’s no flicker. And if you’re wondering if the lights in your home flicker, you can take your phone and shoot a slow-motion video, and you’ll be horrified to find how much flicker there is from every little LED indicator or light on every appliance — the digital clock on your stove.

Like when you turn the lights out in your place, all of those lights are flickering, and it’s not perceivable to the naked eyes. You think no big deals if the lights flicker.

Again, going back to nature, in nature, the only time light flickers is if you’re running through the jungle or a forest and the sunbeams are popping through the trees.

And that would mean you’re in high beta, either chasing something or being chased by something. So it’s extremely irritating to the nervous system to be under light that flickers. Now some televisions and computer monitors and things like that have built-in flicker limiters, and even some bulbs do.

Well, actually, all fluorescent bulbs probably do flicker. I’m going to take that back, but not all LEDs are created equal. Some of them are just horrific and just cheap and not well-designed. And they flicker like crazy.

They have a really narrow spectrum blue light that’s just heinous and completely wrecks your sleep and neurotransmitters and everything. So getting the lighting thing taken care of.

Then the next one for me with sleep that has changed the game is really paying attention to temperature. So I have a device called an OOLER. It’s a company called Chili Technology. They make something called a chiliPAD, which is like the cheaper version of it.

And the OOLER is kind of more badass. It has a few more bells and whistles, but the OOLERs are incredible because you have no EMF because you keepthe electric unit itself a few feet from the bed.

I keep mine in the other room in the bathroom. I use really long hoses, and essentially it either heats or cools water and sends those through silicone veins in a pad that goes into your fitted sheet. And so, you can customize the temperature on both sides of the bed.

So if you sleep with a partner, this is incredible because it’s rare, especially if it’s a male-female dynamic partner that both parties are going to agree on the same temperature.

So, Alison has hers set on kind of warm. It warms up when she gets in bed.

Then it gets a little cooler. Then in the morning, it turns warm again. It’s super cozy.

And I just have mine in like sub-arctic freezing all night, every night. And that has dramatically improved my sleep. I think a lot of us, especially men, because we just tend to run a bit hotter, we don’t realize that our sleep sucks because of temperature.

You just feel restless. You are waking up a bunch of times during the night. You don’t really know why. You just think it’s something you ate or there was a noise. Really what I found when I started really working on the temperature was, oh my God, most of the time, what’s waking me up is I’m just overheating.

And I wake up and like pull the blankets down or whatever. And I don’t realize that’s what woke me up because then you fall back asleep and you don’t stop to track like, huh, let me wake up and figure out what woke me up. You don’t want to wake up. You want to go back to bed. So really working on the temperature.

Now, here on this trip, it’s winter right now. And it’s cold enough in Austin that I can just turn the thermostat down to 65 or something like that. And then the room stays nice and chilly, and I sleep fine. But if you live anywhere that is hot or warm, that to me is a huge hack.

So the lighting, the temperature, and then the next one, I think, would be the supplementation. And I’m going to preface this by saying there’s a lot of noise in the CBD industry. I mean, every two days, I get a package from some companies sending me their CBD products, and God bless them.

I’m very grateful and fortunate that’s the case, but I think there’s also a lot of very ineffective, fake sort of just mass-market CBD products that probably don’t do anything. I get CBD that’s full spectrum, and they actually just went biodynamic to a step even further from a company called Onda Wellness.

And they do, I think, it’s a really unique extraction. I believe they just use oil, and they basically just like, I don’t know. I’m sure there’s a word for it, but it’s like if you have olive oil and you put Rosemary in it, it’s kind of like that. Like they’re not doing hexane or even CO2. They’re using no solvents.

They basically just soak their CBD cannabis buds in oil for a long period oftime and get this really beautiful, full-spectrum. And it tastes quite medicinal.

It doesn’t even taste like pot. It tastes like the terpenes are really strong. Yeah, it just tastes really potent. And that stuff, I mean, I take a much larger dose than is recommended, probably like two or three full droppers full, which is like probably five days’ worth a night or something.

But if I really need sleep, I’ll do a mega-dose of that CBD, and I am out. But then it’s a matter of balancing your REM sleep with the deep sleep. I find that if I do a lot of CBD, I won’t get as good of REM sleep. I’ll get a lot of deep sleep.

So I use the Oura ring to track that, and then I’ll play around with the supplementation. Maybe I use melatonin like the Quicksilver Scientific professional-grade melatonin. It knocks you on your ass. I don’t want to do that all the time because I don’t want to tell my body, hey, stop making melatonin. We’re taking it exogenously now.

But on some nights when I really want a deep dive sleep, I’ll do that melatonin. And then if I’m getting like too much deep sleep, then I’ll do some lion’s mane extract, like a pretty hearty dose of that. And that will automatically or very quickly bring my REM sleep back up and find that nice balance.

But I’m always tracking the sleep with the Oura ring. And I always want to be in the 90 percentile. And I’m usually, I’d say, at least in the 80 percentile. On a really good night in the 90%, but I’m still working on it. But those, I think, are the main things.

And I’ve tried a million different supplements over the years too. There’s a company called Sovereignty that makes a product called DREAM. It’s great. It has a bunch of adaptogenic Ayurvedic and Chinese herbs. There’s all the valerian and the kava and all of these different things you can kind of play with.

Sometimes I’ll take a bit of Kratom at night. That can kind of interfere with sleep, but it is really relaxing. If I don’t feel like relaxing late at night, that will force me into kind of a mellower state.

So, I play with the herbs and the supplementation a lot, but I think the big ones are the light and the temperature. And then also one for me that I’m having a harder time learning, but every time I get my ass kicked and get bad sleep, I relearn it. And that is paying attention to brainwave states at night.

And by that, I mean getting out of beta by stopping work. If I’m doing any kind of work, even if I don’t think it’s stressful, like I am just going through old emails, like no big deal, doing research online, if I’m on a computer and my mind is very active, and I’m thinking or being productive or creative, that will really hurt my sleep onset.

And I find it much harder to fall asleep. And in some cases, if I stay up late, even just watching TV, watching a movie, anything that’s kind of producing cortisol, I’ll find that my sleep definitely suffers.

So, the self-discipline part about it for me is to really wind down and just slow down at night and disconnect from technology and disconnect from anything that’s going to cause me to produce cortisol or speed up the brainwaves and just really like make nighttime a practice of winding down and getting to bed at a decent hour.

And then the last thing I’ll say, and I’m not great at this because it depends where I am in the world, but watching the sunrise is the fastest way to get your body clock on track. And so, that’s something I really like to do when I travel.

And again, I missed it this morning, and I’m hoping to do it tomorrow morning. That’s my plan. But if I could get up and watch the sunrise and sun gaze, meaning I’m doing breathwork, watching the sunrise, grounded on bare feet on earth, if I can do that for three or four mornings, I’ll start getting tired at the normal time. Like I’ll want to go to bed at 10.

But if I miss the sun rises, and I use artificial light at night, even if it’s not blue, I’m not going to want to go to bed until like midnight or one. And that kind of really messes up my whole sleep schedule. And I start sleeping in later, and I get caught in this kind of trap.

But sun-gazing in the morning is the key to indicate to your body where you are on the planet and to regulate the production of melatonin and cortisol and not to mention dopamine and all of the other neurotransmitters that just help you feel productive and positive throughout the day.

So the morning sun gaze to me is like really that’s the nuclear bomb to your circadian rhythm. Like if you can get that down with some regularity, it fixes so much of the other problems that you have with sleep.

Dr. Schaffner: Oh, I love that. And again, nature and connecting us to the natural rhythms. We’re more aligned. And then, of course, that translates into health and all of that and great tips. I found the red-light thing really helpful.

I’m at a point in my life I still have to work at night.

I am working on that, a 2021 goal. But I actually just got Dave Asprey’s red light that you can kind of unwind. You can change the light bulb through the day, which has been fun for me.

And then, I have the chiliPAD. They were very nice to share that with me, but that was a game-changer because a lot of the natural beds like trap heat more I find. And so, like you want to get like a good quality bed that’s not full of all these synthetic fibers and things. And then I found that they can be hotter. So it’s kind of a hack for that as well.

Luke: Totally.

Dr. Schaffner: Yeah. I think the realm of cannabis and hemp, absolutely, I think that our whole endocannabinoid system helps us regulate our sleep, and I think that’s still an underutilized tool.

Melatonin is interesting because I think we use a lot of melatonin in our practice because it also has this quality where it helps to detoxify the brain.

So nature, again, is so wise in that it helps us with circadian biology, but it also helps to clear toxicants from the brain and also pathogens, which assists the glymphatic system.

And I’m again, a naturopath, so I’m trying to make sense of like, okay, because we’ll use some higher doses of melatonin to help people and what I may be have oversimplified, but I feel like we live in this melatonin deficient time.

Like everything’s coming at us to affect and deplete melatonin. And one thing that I know that you’re really dialed into is this whole world of EMF. And so, EMF can deplete our pineal glands production of melatonin as well. And so, Luke, you just created a course right on how people can really optimize their home environment for EMFs.

So like any other tools or rituals around EMF? I know it’s a deep dive to go into all of that, but just like pearls around that to help with sleep that you’ve felt helpful.

Luke: Oh, my God. Yeah. I’m glad you brought that up. Yeah. For those listening, I did, in fact, create a course. It’s called the EMF Home Safety Masterclass. It’s only $149. It’s like almost six hours of content. It’s extremely exhaustive, but entertaining. So there’s the plug for the course, but yeah.

My story, and it’s so funny that you brought that up. Again, going back to our ancestral lifeway. Obviously, there’s EMF created by the sun, the magnetic field, the cosmos in general. It’s not that EMF is not supposed to be here, but what I’m talking about is non-native EMF.

So it’s literally frequencies and power ranges that are not native to this planet, just like non-native blue light or spectrum of light that is so narrow. It does not exist here on planet earth and nature. So, of course, when your body reacts to it and interacts with those frequencies, it does not know how to process them.

And so, I’ve been very EMF aware and very EMF sensitive for a really long time. But where my real passion came from was, I guess it was about maybe four years ago or so.

I lived in an apartment in Hollywood, and I was already very EMF aware at this time and like turn off the Wi-Fi at night and all the protective stuff for my devices and was pretty hardcore about it.

And I’m doing all the Biohacks there, man. I mean, I had started my podcast, and I have personal relationships with so many brilliant doctors and scientists, physicists, and really had a lot of resources at my fingertips, yet I was getting sicker and sicker living in this apartment. Vertigo, my eyes went bad, excruciating brain fog where I could barely drive or function. I’m doing ozone, 10-pass IV, hyperbaric chambers.

I mean, I’m doing tons of detoxes, trying to figure out what the hell is wrong with me. And then one day, really, it was through divine guidance, I think. I wandered into this office building across from my apartment because I wanted to find a place to watch the sunset because I had a vantage point for the sunrise, but I didn’t have the sunset.

And I felt so good when I watched the sunrise and sunset. So, I kind of sneak into this office building. It’s a three-story building right across from my two-story apartment, and I meander up the stairs.

And when I get to the doors that lead out to the roof, I see all these huge radiation warning signs and Verizon signs. And I thought you have got to be shitting me. Me of all people, I am so paranoid of being near cell towers, being near Wi-Fi routers because I’ve studied the science.

This is really dangerous stuff. And the regulatory agencies that are supposed to be protecting us are laughable, to say the least. They are so corrupt, so money-driven. This is why you see cell towers on hospitals and elementary schools.

People make a lot of money leasing out their property to the big telecommunications companies to put their infrastructure. And then cities also make a lot of revenue from allowing these technologies to be installed on city property, county, state property, et cetera.

So this is a huge epidemic. So knowing that I would never in a million years live anywhere near a cell tower, but I pop the door open to that roof. And I’m like, you have to be kidding me. There were two giant cell towers with multi mast on them pointed right at my bedroom.

And so, this is about 100, maybe 150 yards away from where my bed was for three years. And they were hidden by kind of a faux wall. I’m assuming the owner of the building put in some stipulation that required them to make them less ugly. It was an eyesore also.

So, there I was getting fried for those three years, and I immediately moved out and moved up to an area called Laurel Canyon. I brought my EMF meters when I was looking for houses, and I found one with very low RF in that neighborhood.

Incidentally, I found out after having an inspection on that house that there was insane levels of magnetic fields in the house because of bad wiring and also dirty electricity. So it’s like I treated the RF for a different type of EMF. But anyway, I was able to mitigate that.

So, my passion for EMF comes from being someone who’s super healthy. I’m in my forties. I’m one of the most committed biohackers in the world with access to amazing resources and still got so sick.

And I explained that whole scenario to a man that I interviewed named Dr. Ted Archer, COSO, a Filipino brilliant MD who is arguably one of the eighth smartest people in the planet based on IQ tests.

And he’s a brilliant guy. And I told him about that, and he said, wow. He said, Luke, he says, I can’t believe you don’t have brain cancer. I said, yeah, well, maybe I do because I feel like it half the time. So, after that, I just became such an advocate.

And honestly, I’m so pissed off that we live in a world where we’re driven by greed and money to the point where so many humans’ lives are being destroyed, and so many people are getting brain cancer and all sorts of other ailments as a result of acute and consistent exposure to these technologies.

And so, that’s why, again, knowing that like there’s no other planet to move to, there is one area in, I believe it’s West Virginia because they have these telescopes there and stuff that it’s like there’s no cellphone or Wi-Fi. There’s no wireless there.

So until I move there, this is just the world. The Airbnb I’m in right now, last night I went up on the roof, and I looked out, and I’m like, oh, this is great. It feels so good to be away from all the cell towers.

About a quarter-mile from this house, there’s a mast of cell tower pointed right at the house. There’s no getting away from it. So I’ve gotten really into mitigation in the esoteric realms of transmuting fields that are entering into house.

We use a service called flfe.net, Focused Life-Force Energy, which would take me a while to explain, but essentially, it’s a quantum resonance technology that you can assign to geographic locations to not block EMF but to transmute the waveform of EMF generated from devices inside the house or from outside the house into a more harmonious field.

So on the esoteric realm, there’s that. There are other devices, Soma Vedic, the blue shield scalar wave technologies that I’m a firm believer in based on what I would say is pretty viable science testing on animals, not in a cruel way, but putting these devices on farms.

The production of the egg quality and consistency goes up. The fat changes in the cows where they put these devices on dairy farms. They don’t get sick anymore. They don’t need antibiotics, all kinds of crazy studies like that.

HRV testing, live blood cell analysis, fairly empirical evidence as close as you can get without having a $5 million research budget. But I really do carefully vet technologies that claim to assist with EMF because there are also a lot of fake ones that don’t do anything.

So those work, and then in terms of like more hard science, I haven’t done this because I don’t own a house yet, but I will 120% when I move in a place, get it tested.

And then, I will shield the entire house with shielding paint and shielding fabric on the curtains. And I will literally live in a Faraday cage because just about everywhere you go is getting inundated with these frequencies. And it’s just really hard to avoid.

I mean, I’m in a very rural area here in Texas, and I just happened to live a quarter-mile from the cell tower. And I know I’m too close to a cell tower if I get five bars on my phone. I’m like, this sucks. I’m probably the only person in the world when my phone gets no bars, I’m like, yes.

So, the home shielding paint, having it tested by a building biologist, and then here’s the thing: we can just hardwire everything. I was born in 1970. When you had to make a phone call when I was a kid, you walked across the room and picked up the phone off the wall, and there was a cable on it.

So, I don’t think it’s that hard to rehabilitate ourselves if you have the know-how and the coin. You run ethernet cables all through your walls, and you have little ports everywhere. And when you want to use your phone, you go plug your phone in.

Like, wouldn’t it be awesome to use our cell phones less? I wish my phone didn’t work as much as it works inside the house because I would be less addicted to the dopamine depleting habits I have around that technology. So like to me, EMF proofing your home and getting rid of the blue light would make it. So what you eat barely matters unless you’re eating like GMOs, aspartame, seed oils, hydrogenated oils, the 10 main offenders that will make you super sick super-fast. If you’re eating a relatively clean organic diet, to me, all you need to do then is deal with the EMF and the blue light in your home space, especially in your bedroom, and you’re good to go.

But I think so many of us ignore EMF because, honestly, it’s a lot harder and more expensive to deal with in changing your diet. It’s like, oh cool. Okay, don’t eat fast food anymore.

All right. I mean, that to me is much easier than like paying someone $5000 to come do an EMF assessment of your house and then dropping another $10,000 to fix all the stuff that they find.

It’s much more expensive, time-consuming, and it does require, I think, some higher degree of discipline to really adhere to the safety protocols that I think are essential if you want to really live a vibrant and healthy life. The other side of EMF is as you start to become aware of the risks is managing the neurosis and the fear response that come around that.

And so, what I’m always working on within myself is like knowing that I live in a safe universe and that ultimately there is a higher power that cares about me and that I am not this body, that I’m a soul or an energy inhabiting this body. Otherwise, I start to feel like my very existence is being threatened by those cell towers and the Wi-Fi router. And that fear response will probably give you cancer faster than the actual cell tower down the road, or at least the compounding of both of them would most certainly make you more sick because now you’re living in a fight or flight stress response because of the awareness.

But yeah, to me, EMF is everything. And anyone in the health space that’s not giving serious credence and attention to the EMF issue, especially for people that are urbanites, they’re leaving a huge piece of the puzzle, if not the most important part out.

And you can eat paleo, vegan, whatever all day long, and if you’re living in a high EMF environment, I truly don’t believe you can be that healthy for that long. It’s that serious, depending on your level of exposure.

So the understanding that it is that serious and at the same time, having a bit of levity about it and not take it at all too serious because we moved in here.

And I’m in a house, and I always bring an ethernet cable and then I hardware my computer and I just turn the Wi-Fi off, and I definitely turn the Wi-Fi off at night, but in this Airbnb, they have the room locked where they have the router. It’s like in their private zone or whatever. I was like, oh, this is funny.

So, it’s a great opportunity for me to surrender my control and just to know that I’m safe. I’m okay. And I turned on my FLFE service here. I’ve got my blue shield plugged in. I did some just common-sense, practical things to just harmonize the environment.

And then after that, I just have to put that cell tower down the road out of my mind and surrender any fear, anxiety, negativity, anger, resentment, whatever might come up around the placement of that particular tower or the self-pity of like, why do I always get an Airbnb next to a cell tower?

I do have an uncanny ability to pick places that are right next to a cell tower. I think God’s trying to teach me to just let go of the control issues I have around that. And so, there’s the opportunity psychologically to also– It’s like tie up your camel or no. The saying goes: trust God but tie up your camel.

And so, I think that’s the healthy approach to any practices like this is you do what you can, boots on the ground. You make adjustments to your lifestyle to be as healthy as you can.

But there’s just so many things that are beyond, far beyond our control, and us letting go of the exertion of that control can be really healthy for our mental health.

Dr. Schaffner: Yeah. Great words to leave on. I want to honor your time, and I think I believe you partnered with Brian Hoyer with your course, and I know him well.

Luke: That’s correct. Yeah.

Dr. Schaffner: Yeah, he’s shielded some offices, and he’s been great for my patients as well. And I think you just gave us so many nuggets of information and how to be more resilient to the stressors. And I kind of come up with the same thing.

Well, we chose to incarnate now. We’re on the planet at this time, and we have to do our best to thrive in this environment and just trust in the process. But there’s so many tools and so many technologies. And I want to, well, link to the course as well.

And yeah, I think we can leave it there, Luke. I mean, I could talk to you for another hour, but I know that you’re going to go find your healing home, wherever that might be. Do you have a meter in your bag to make sure it’s the right one?

Luke: I do. Yeah. I brought three EMF meters with me. Even though I will shield wherever I go, I don’t want to make the same mistake and move into a place, especially with the RF. Like magnetic fields, electric fields, those are pretty easy to mitigate in your home, but the RF that’s brutal, man.

I mean, it goes through almost anything. So imagine if it can go through a concrete wall with ease, imagine what it’s doing to your cells. So, I did bring my meter just in case I accidentally love a place that’s right next to a freaking cell tower or something.

Dr. Schaffner: Well, I wish you all the best of luck finding your place. And I can’t thank you enough for being part of this and all the work that you did to educate everyone. So thank you so much.

Luke: Thank you so much for having me. Much appreciated, and I’m very happy to contribute and flattered to be asked to participate. So thank you.

Dr. Schaffner: Thank you all for listening to the Spectrum of Health podcast, I hope you enjoyed my conversation today with Luke Storey. Please check out his podcast and his website at lukestorey.com. If you are enjoying this podcast I’d be so honored if you’d leave a review.  I really enjoy doing these interviews and hope you are learning as much as I do. Thank you!